Empower Network: Where You Learn Nothing
A few weeks ago I posted When You’re Told It’s Ok To Steal From Another Blogger.
At the time, I honestly had no bloody clue what Empower Network (EN) was.
Then I came across a woman on the Bloggy Moms Network who has this “easy make money from home” with EN post going and I’m like, what the hell?
Then I came across another mom selling the same “make money from home easy” deal.
So I looked into it a little more.
Then a little more.
Then an old blogging friend posted a video on FB that just…shocked me. Cause really I never expected he’d get involved with a company that promotes stealing.
So we had a short chat on FB and I’m sharing it here with you. We had this Chat on September 23rd.
Yes I waited almost a month. Why? You know me, I like to do my homework. I had actually planned to signup next month and see what the real deal is. But! Ana from Traffic Generation Cafe saved me my dollars. When you’re done here, I want you to head over and read her post. But first my convo with a Empower Network member.
Please note, I still like this guy, and I feel bad because I know if he knew the whole low down or if there was a real post out there telling you what Empower Network really is, he would not be in so deep. So, his name and anything that can connect anyone to him has been replaced with a generic term and placed between brackets [like so].
On Sept 23, 2012 I emailed [Don] and mentioned seeing his video on facebook about hitting Google Search Results spot #1 overnight and wanting to learn how. He found me on FB and here’s how our conversation about Empowered Network went.
Inside Scoop on What Empowered Network Members Are Learning
Don
I got your email. Would be happy to chat with you
Me
great! i know how you made page one google, so no need to answer that. i’m more interested in what empowered network is and if it’s the real deal before i put my money in anything ya know?
Don
Ohhh I know I was the same way. Took me a year to jump in…. Am very glad I did. Yes it’s the real deal. I am speaking on a conference call tonight about it. I was contacted and invited as a guest speaker on how to market it. I was making money the first day I started as I had some people lined up to start as well.
Me
so really Don what is it? i’ve watched the whole sales video, i’ve been to the guy’s site, i forget his name, the skinny surfer looking guy with the hottie wife, i still dont get what it is
Don
It’s a blogging platform. But much more. It is SEO’d out the butt and google loves it. $25 a month for a blog that is all set up for you. Or you can upgrade. And it truly is 100% commission.
Me
i guess to clarify, i’m wondering what service do you as a member offer that’s making you money
Don
It offers training in online marketing, blogging etc. All at different levels.
Me
so you’re offering training in how to market your business online along with a fully optimized site?
Don
yes
Me
and it’s a community? y’all link to each other and network with one another
Don
yes… and each member is a backlink to your blog… 40,000 right now… very strong
Me
so every member basically offers the same training they received? so if i had a accounting business online and i needed training in marketing it, this wouldn’t apply, right?
Don
No it’s not specific to any skill set. It offers marketing training on blogging. Like for me I am in [3rd Party Biz]. I offer my downline the EM network as a blog platform for them and it creates a funnel to eventually lead them to [3rd Party Biz] or whatever company you are with. Some people are using it as their primary business as well.
Me
i’m thinking…wondering if this system would be good for my wordpress blog design service
or if it’s better suited in offering training people to blog and market a blog
Don
I don’t see why not. It would have you on page one pretty quick to market your business. And also as blog training for your clients.
Me
blog training for those who don’t know how to blog with a goal kinda deal?
that need to blog for their website?
Don
yes
Me
so without a business to market, say i wanted to keep it separate from afterbedtimeblog, because vanitacyril.com isn’t doing squat, so let’s say i don’t have a business, can i still benefit from this system? because i came across a mom blogger offering the service and she said it’s a great way to “make money from home”, not “to learn to market your biz”
Don
Yes… it can be used also as a home business you just market it as a blog platform and a way to make money without mlm, etc.
Me
what’s mlm?
Don
multi level marketing, network marketing
Me
lol i still don’t know what it is. lol
Don
like in [3rd Party Biz], you become a representative then share the company, product and sign people up etc.
Me
what’s [3rd Party Biz]? is it different from Empowered Network?
Don
Yes …. [3rd Party Biz] is a weight loss, athletic product company…. my site is here [Don.3rdparty.com] check it out
I use Empower network to blog about it and make money from it at the same time. So essentially 2 business’
Me
so empowered network is what you’re using for the [3rd Party Biz] site? meaning, is that the site running on your empowered network blog platform or [don.com]?
Don
haha no… [don.com] is now my training site. I have 2 blogs now. Empower is linked to it yes but separate. If that makes sense lol…. Empower I use solely to blog about my primary business. It gets ranked and noticed fast which drives them to my [3rd Party Biz] site.
Me
oh so what’s your empowered blog url?
Don
it’s a[don]blog.com
Me
so the post that hit page one is on [don.com] not a[don]blog.com?
Don
Yes that one is…. Also my empower posts are on page one too…. That one took me by surprise and learned that Empower was pushing it up because of the links to it
Me
darn i closed the window! i was watching the video LOL. what’s the keyword term you placed in the title of that post? [City]…
Don
yes
I also learned that localizing your keywords is loved by Google.
Me
but what was the keyword again? i’d like to see who else is on the front page
Don
ummm it was [City,Country] [3rd Party Biz] Home Business
Me
but that’s what you searched google for when you found your site on page one?
Don
no searched [City] [3rd Party Biz]
Me
Don are they teaching you Search Engine Marketing or Just Search Engine Optimization?
Don
haha … a little of both…
Me
so how do people who don’t know about [3rd Party Biz] find you?
how do they find you for weight loss?
cause this [3rd Party Biz] thing looks wicked dude
Don
most people are searching for [3rd Party Biz]. They are the qualified prospects I want. People who are looking for a business and a team. But people do find me for weight loss and athletics also
[3rd Party Biz] is very awesome…
I have been with 2 other companies and did very little. With [3rd Party Biz] I started being successful in my first month
Me
so it’s [3rd Party Biz] that’s making you money, not empowered network?
Don
They both are
I have to blog anyway so why not make money doing it
win win
Me
so you’re not keyword searching anymore, huh? that market samurai purchase went to waste
Don
ohhh no… I am still keyword searching
Me
so then you know this:
there’s 135k search volume in [Country] for [3rd Party Biz] in [Country] but no search volume for your other keyword terms
so that post is on page one because you did a great job optimizing, but no one’s looking for the term you optimized for so the term isn’t competitive
Don
Kind of yes but have been getting hit like crazy on it
Me
people will see your video DON and get the impression that having their blog on empowered will get them page one ranking but that doesn’t mean it’s for a profitable term
i like you Don, you know this, it’s why I threw all that free info at you before. be careful with your reputation friend.
Don
It depends on their SEO work also…. They can use their keywords how they want to use them and it will get them ranked high just because Empower is liked so much by Google. So they get the hits they are looking for. I have made more contacts and sales through Empower in 2 months than I did in 2 years with my other blog
Me
also when i looked at [don.com] i saw post titles i’ve already seen on other empowered network blogs. i hope the content isn’t the same, because google will hit you for dupe content, i don’t need to tell you this
Don
yikes I hope not… mine is all original
Me
but aren’t you placing it on both of your blogs?
that’s duplicate content.
Don
yeah i did do that for one….
Don
was being lazy lol
I don’t make that a habit though
Me
and believe me, Don, google will come across your blog and probably already has and dropped your ranking because empowered network is a bigger site. so your site is considered the scammer
Don
I am slowly veering away from business on my main blog to training…. and keeping empower for [3rd Party Biz] only…
actually my site rankings have been rising. I really dropped after that freakin panda update.
was under a million and the next day at 6 million lol
Me
Don take a look at the webmaster guidelines. read through it. you’ll find out what google really loves and why you were affected by Panda
thanks for sharing Don. I appreciate it.
Don
Anytime Vanita I owe you a lot … you saved my butt awhile ago lol
Me
Don, I wish you best of luck guy.
you don’t owe me anything, i wish i could have done more for you
Don
One thing I try to be online is honest… you taught me that. So when I talk to people I try to be as forthcoming as I can be.
Me
Don, that video is misleading
Don
which video?
Me
the one where you show how you made google page one. full disclosure would have been telling people there was no search volume for it. you’re getting hits because people are curious, they see the video on your empowered network blog and want to see how you rank, but in the long term…
Me
I’m glad you found empowered and it’s helped you. my old school ways barely made me 2/3 of my old corporate income this past year and i barely sleep 4 hours. lol. but it puts food on the table while i grow u know?
Don
Know how you feel… going to augment that video. Thought I was clear in it thought that it was the local searches that rank higher… will make it clearer. lol
Me
ok gotta run. lol. got to go send out today’s class emails. i ran your keywords through google keyword tool, there’s no search volume in [Country]
Don
? really haha I picked them because there was lol…. maybe I’m screwing it up somehow lol… will check back on it
have a great day Vanita
So what’s my final words on Empowered Network in Blogger Speak?
What’s Don really learning?
Why I’m not as disappointed in Don as I am in myself?
And what did Ana learn?
Why is Don now Brandless?









I’m surprised there’s not more comments here, this is a really interesting personal chat between 2 ppl, on a massive money-making machine
Psyched for part 2!
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Jason it’s so kind of you to kick thins off! Sharing is knowledge given and knowledge taken is empowerment. Hopefully by sharing I’ll empower a few with the knowledge they need to make sound decisions.
I don’t know how I missed this post, this was so interesting! Only saw this when I saw Part 2, so of course, being the diligent (ahem) person I am, I had to read this first.
Empowered sounds like an online version of multi-level marketing where people have to first invest in a ‘beginner’s package” in which they try the products, then they work their butts off to sell to their friends & get THEM to sell & buy a beginner’s package. The people who REALLY make money from this scheme are the ones on top who have thousands of ‘legs’ selling for them. Most of the people who are actually selling are just schmucks, making money for someone else.
In other words, I do not like MLMs.
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lol you didnt miss anything girl. post published one after the other. part 1 was just over 2000 words, i could not keep it going. lol
i really truly did not know this marketing style was called MLM. i knew OF it. I know it’s done. I’ve been told to do it myself. lol. i didnt realize there was a name for it other than scam.
As I posted on g+, I was a VA for someone that was building something like this. Thank goodness he was trying to push me past my techy knowledge because it didn’t take me long to come across how spammy this was. I was his VA and he was trying to push me to buy into it for goodness sake.
It blows my mind that people are so blinded by the immediate fix they don’t see the long term outcome. This site won’t bring you money past a year. But worse than that you just connected your name and that site to your main income site. Like you said Vanita, reputation. He toasted it.
So while I’ve done a lot of stupid crap online and done everything “wrong”. I have never done anything I can’t come back from. All my lessons have been things I should have been doing, not things I wouldn’t be caught dead doing now.
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girl it definitely does require some common sense to chose whether or not to stay in a game once you understand all the rules. these are desperate times and some ppl will blind themselves to the truth to provide for their family. as you saw in Ana’s post, the affiliates don’t make 100% on all sales, they have to give up some of their sales to their mentors. reminds me of when an eco friendly products company reached out to me via another mom blogger a year ago. the deal was you buy into it, then sell it, then recruit others to sell it, blah, blah, blah. i had the conference calls, i watched the videos and i said no. it’s a good product but i’m not pushing it on my friends.
Thanks for the heads up. So much scammy stuff out there!
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Loved the read, Vanita – you were awesome at cross-examining, Don; you’ve got a lawyer lost in you. lol
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Hmm, interesting. I want to stay miles away from stuff like that!
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Hi Van,
Am not into MLM or NM
I have some of my friends doing that and didn’t know about it until one of ‘em told me about that. But I’m not a MARKETING guy.
Empower Network group was banned on Facebook due to massive link sharing and considered as spammy. It’s called a Money Machine, ’cause people like easy money
I have seen some people obsessed with the idea and devoted their personal brand for ‘em. It’s centralized and the personal brand will fade away, and EN will rule ‘em.
Glad you made a point for him to think about
Anyway, Without a BRAND, no MARKETERS
Cheers…
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I’m with Alison on this…somehow it sounds like MLM. I’ve never been interested in these kinds of approach but wow didn’t know that they’ve reach the bloggy land too. Thanks for this post, V!
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Hey Vanita,
I had read Ana’s post not long ago on her take of EN and I have to agree with you both. I’ve never supported it and don’t seem to understand why others don’t see this same thing. I think they are promoting the lazy man’s way to making money and that’s not being realistic because in the long run I honestly believe they are hurting themselves.
To each his own I suppose but thanks for sharing this conversation. Do you think that “Don” learned anything? Huh, probably not.
~Adrienne
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no Don is still going full steam ahead.
I really do feel bad for him cause i like him.
i hope he makes it out well.
two things i can’t stand girl, those who promote, encourage and teach the “lazy man’s way” and those who teach without disclosing what the possible effects are.
the internet is a great place to share knowledge. it would be better if those who teach gave full disclosure, you know?
thanks for dropping by Adrienne. have a great weekend!